Pads and discs at 20k?

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Mike Rometer
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Re: Pads and discs at 20k?

Post by Mike Rometer » Fri May 10, 2019 2:24 pm

Fourwheels wrote:
Fri May 10, 2019 1:13 pm
I should keep out of this having sold my XE but as a comparison I have just replaced rear pads on my Mercedes at 22,500.
Which led to a discussion with a friend who owns a totally independent garage workshop.
He tells me anything between 5K and 30K is normal for pads dependant on the driver, with discs every two or three sets of discs. Problem is he tells me, that disc manufacturers are using softer materials as an aid to providing better grip i.e. Better braking distance.
Others will know better than me on that but it seems that Jaguars might not be any different to any other brand.
Do you know of any other makes, other than JLR that want £1000 for all round pad & disc change, and don't begin with R or B?
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Re: Pads and discs at 20k?

Post by ChrisGB » Fri May 10, 2019 6:18 pm

Mike Rometer wrote:
Fri May 10, 2019 2:24 pm
Fourwheels wrote:
Fri May 10, 2019 1:13 pm
I should keep out of this having sold my XE but as a comparison I have just replaced rear pads on my Mercedes at 22,500.
Which led to a discussion with a friend who owns a totally independent garage workshop.
He tells me anything between 5K and 30K is normal for pads dependant on the driver, with discs every two or three sets of discs. Problem is he tells me, that disc manufacturers are using softer materials as an aid to providing better grip i.e. Better braking distance.
Others will know better than me on that but it seems that Jaguars might not be any different to any other brand.
Do you know of any other makes, other than JLR that want £1000 for all round pad & disc change, and don't begin with R or B?

I was an early adopter of the current Kia Rio and they wanted £1000 for discs and pads for that. Hahahaha No.
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Re: Pads and discs at 20k?

Post by Fourwheels » Fri May 10, 2019 8:46 pm

Mike.
I don't want to get too involved with this because I moved on having tired of the problems with my 2015 XE but since you asked and the Mercedes bill is in front of me

It's possible JRI for £1000 all round may not be too far out.
Mercedes for rear pads only including wheel removal and replacement sensors £172.61 (with VAT £207.13) but they did give me a 10% customer loyalty discount without asking.
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Re: Pads and discs at 20k?

Post by Mike Rometer » Fri May 10, 2019 10:15 pm

Fourwheels wrote:
Fri May 10, 2019 8:46 pm
Mike.
I don't want to get too involved with this because I moved on having tired of the problems with my 2015 XE but since you asked and the Mercedes bill is in front of me

It's possible JRI for £1000 all round may not be too far out.
Mercedes for rear pads only including wheel removal and replacement sensors £172.61 (with VAT £207.13) but they did give me a 10% customer loyalty discount without asking.
My question was really intended to be rhetorical. Main Dealers will always charge way over the odds for these jobs. The parts for ours can be had for around £300 all in, without searching for the cheapest. You may of course wish to stick with Premium parts.
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Re: Pads and discs at 20k?

Post by capese21 » Fri May 10, 2019 10:36 pm

BMW would have charged £910 for a front & rear brake service on my previous 520D. They also say "typically requied at 60k"

At less than 30k Jag dealer replaced them under warranty so cant really moan as its the only issue I have had.
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Re: Pads and discs at 20k?

Post by PhilB » Sat May 11, 2019 10:26 am

UV Blue wrote:
Fri May 10, 2019 9:30 am
I've just had my second service and flagged up uneven wear and rusting on the discs - I'm at 13.5k miles. They said it was normal and nothing of concern. Not so sure myself, there's a permanent 5mm of rust around the perimeter and the disc surfaces have a ripple feel. I find myself looking at other cars and by comparison the Jag's look poor.
Took a couple of pictures today for you to compare with yours.
Like yours, a 2 year-old S and mine has just under 12K on the clock.
Swept part of the discs are completely clear.
Tiny rust lip on the corner edge of the discs.
Outer rims of the discs and the internal vanes on the vented part are rust free too as they have a dark grey coating.
Please feel free to show your dealer to show them it's not normal in your case at all.

Rear disc:

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Front disc:

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Re: Pads and discs at 20k?

Post by fraser » Sat May 11, 2019 2:24 pm

My XE Portfolio 2 litre diesel AWD has slightly juddering front brakes. Car is on 13k miles and I bought it at 10k. Car was 2 years old last week and had its first service and I asked for this to be checked out. Dealer tells me the disc is within its distortion limit of 0.075mm, mine being 0.06. And, you've guessed it, t hey say discs and pads are "wear and tear" items. However surely this clause applies to wear and tear and NOT to poor manufacturing.


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Re: Pads and discs at 20k?

Post by capese21 » Sat May 11, 2019 4:27 pm

Brakes are a wear & tear issue to be fair. Coroded deep pitted brake discs that are not worn thin are not though. A basic brake service and grease the guide pins may well help with the judder.
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Re: Pads and discs at 20k?

Post by spritely » Sat May 11, 2019 11:27 pm

UV Blue wrote:
Fri May 10, 2019 9:30 am
I've just had my second service and flagged up uneven wear and rusting on the discs - I'm at 13.5k miles. They said it was normal and nothing of concern. Not so sure myself, there's a permanent 5mm of rust around the perimeter and the disc surfaces have a ripple feel. I find myself looking at other cars and by comparison the Jag's look poor.
Mine look like that, and I have only done just over 4900 miles. :(
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Re: Pads and discs at 20k?

Post by STXS » Sun May 12, 2019 2:55 am

I dont know if this is correct but doesn't torque vectoring by braking put more wear on your pads?


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