Jaguar brake discs/pads 2019 quality

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Jaguar brake discs/pads 2019 quality

Post by Borat1987 » Tue Nov 19, 2019 9:33 pm

Hi,

I’m going to my Jaguar maindealer to replace by front and tears discs and pads on my 2016 x260. The current original discs are corroded and haven’t lasted long 29,000 miles..... have Jaguar changed the makeup of the discs and pads? Are they a different quality or from a different supplier?

Many thanks

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Re: Jaguar brake discs/pads 2019 quality

Post by moose » Wed Nov 20, 2019 12:33 pm

Mine is in today at my local independent having rear discs and pads done, originals only lasted 20k. Fronts are fine so not being touched.

The garage is a Mercedes independent and they were saying they have done a few XE rear discs and virtually all of them had bad corrosion mainly on the inner face of the disc.

I am having genuine parts fitted and hope the new bits are better than the originals fitted !

The total cost fitted by the garage is half the cost of having it done by a main dealer.

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Post by Fordie » Thu Nov 21, 2019 7:11 am

Tbh I didn't see the point in replacing the original discs with the same obvious poor quality ones from jaguar so I purchased coated discs on line along with ebc red stuff pads.
All of the corrosion on my original discs was on areas not in contact with the pads so I figured buying coated discs made sense. They were also a fraction of the price of originals.
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Post by Deleted User 732 » Thu Nov 21, 2019 1:22 pm

To have the inner faces of the disc rusting and not the outer, seems to indicate sticking or seized slide pins. I only had one instance of this on my Rover 45 V6 when I assumed, incorrectly, that they were OK as both disc faces were shiny. I replaced the pad but the rusting part of the slide pins jammed the correct operation of the calipers. I only noticed this some months later when I took a wheel off to give it a super claen and polish and noticed that one of the pads was wearing at an angle and the inner face was rusting. Needless to say I renewed the discs and pads along with the slidepins. The total cost was around £50 from memory. I used to get parts trade then. My current JLR dealer gives me some discount now but parts for Jags are not cheap.

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Post by Borat1987 » Thu Nov 21, 2019 4:27 pm

The car is out of warranty, but Jaguar have agreed to cover 75% of the cost, so will be £230ish for new front and rear discs/pads.

Obviously that’s a decent price and is probably be looking at at least twice that from an independent garage. That’s why I was trying to see if the quality had improved as I ideally don’t want to have to replace them in another 20-30k miles.

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Post by mistral_blue » Sun Nov 24, 2019 4:40 pm

My rears are also shot approaching 20k which is disappointing, but seems to be a regular occurrence having done some forum reading... I've just had some Brembo discs and pads delivered as I've used and rated their stuff in the past - £155 for discs and pads, which I think is pretty decent. Have also bought some Mintex Ceratec compound and am going to DIY the job, so I know that it's been done properly! (main issues I can see are EPB release and piston wind back, but have got access to the right 'tools' for both)

https://www.autodoc.co.uk/car-parts/brake-disc-10132/jaguar/xe/xe-x760/108187-3-0-s

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MINTEX-ANTI-BRAKE-SQUEAL-GREASE-CERATEC-75ml-TUBE-LUBRICANT-DISC-BRAKES-CERA-TEC/183877106947?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649
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Post by Mikeyjd » Sun Nov 24, 2019 5:38 pm

You can't go wrong with Brembo discs. Standard fit on many cars. Good luck with your fitting.
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Post by 147daytona » Sun Nov 24, 2019 5:48 pm

I must admit I like the Jaguar OEM brake pads for the very small amount of dust produced. I spend less time having to clean my wheels on my XE than I have on any car I've owned with alloys and disc brakes.

In comparison, my Wife has an Audi Q3 and the wheels get completely covered in brake dust very quickly, (and I am the one who has to keep them clean).
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Re: Jaguar brake discs/pads 2019 quality

Post by UV Blue » Mon Nov 25, 2019 9:23 am

147daytona wrote:
Sun Nov 24, 2019 5:48 pm
I must admit I like the Jaguar OEM brake pads for the very small amount of dust produced. I spend less time having to clean my wheels on my XE than I have on any car I've owned with alloys and disc brakes.

In comparison, my Wife has an Audi Q3 and the wheels get completely covered in brake dust very quickly, (and I am the one who has to keep them clean).
Agreed!! :lol:
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Re: Jaguar brake discs/pads 2019 quality

Post by capecodjosh » Tue Dec 17, 2019 1:31 am

Hi All,

Josh from across the pond. Cape Cod Massachusetts, south of Boston. My Mom is English if that helps? Cheltenham. Thought I would chime in, been reading the forums.


2018 XE 2.0, AWD, 16K miles, read brake pads on the Outside pad only is 98% worn. Inside pads have maybe 5% wear!! Front brakes barely 60% maybe more left. See my pic attached. I understand these cars brake from the rear which surprised me but is the case so no issue on that. . My guess is caliper guides? Very disconcerting and I plan to file a complaint with local Jaguar dealer. Never should see this let alone on a new car. IN fact I have never seen this ever on any car I have owned.

If inside of the disc is rusting up a bit do check the inside pad wear? I am guessing the caliper pins were sticking but that seems hard to imagine with 16K miles, and they slide fine on removal. at least i cleaned the caliper guides and liberally applied Sil-Glyde, silicone high heat based grease specific to the task. there was no evidence of any silicone grease on the gudies. but they slid fine.

Notes on rear pad changing experiences below-dealer quoted 850 USD!! parts and shipping cost me 120 USD. About 2.5 hours of my time, next time shall be far faster.

EBC ultimax pads, centric pad hardware kit, centric brake wear sensor. I'll comment the disc brake hw kit (centric brand) small springs that fit onto the pad itself were stronger than oem and a bit tough to use. used the existing ones therefore. routing the sensor wire was a pain but knowing how now, easy next time. car was of course on stands and with some large pressure treated wood blocks as safety measure so can access underneath to route the sensor wire. only one space to get your arm up to disconnect the sensor wire from underneath and a bit of by the feel to locate the plastic push pin holes in the 2 locations needed. one from up below and one from wheel well. Brake wear sensor wire is really brittle be careful when replacing. i could not figure out how to disable the epb even with the shop manual instructions, simply undid the parking brake lever under the bonnet. i just checked another website here (rockauto) and can get powerstop brake pads (Z23 Evolution Sport Carbon-Fiber), with hardware included, and 2 speed sensors, shipped for 83 usd :D . ordered them up to leave in trunk as I suspect I shall be revisiting this in a year. Dealer said 4-5 hours of labor, i chuckled. i do have benefit of a garage and a large amount of tools, including the proper brake piston rewind/compress tool set. I've done many discs/pads on many vehicles. I also have a pneumatic brake bleeder, did not bleed the brakes I never cracked the brake nipples. if you have a compressor this tool is cheap and incredible piece of kit, I can bleed all 4 wheels/calipers in minutes, by myself, basically sucks the fluid right through. well worth it.

Anyhow, anyone else notice this uneven wear on outside of pads vs inside pads on the rear brakes?!

I somehow suspect the dealer would have left out this fact. Not very pleased with a service manager lying to my face about 4-5 hours of labor either. OEM parts are more pricey I do understand, priced them out at 175 shipped so about 2x price of what I bought.

jag rear pad.jpg

2018 XE 2.0L

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