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Face lift model

Post by gsb1970 » Sun May 19, 2019 8:49 am

Had a look at the new face lift model yesterday. Must admit I was quite excited as all the little tweaks to styling both inside and out that I would have liked to see on my 15 plate had been made. Love the new exterior styling especially the rear lights..(wonder if these could be fitted to an older xe?) Like the shifter replacing the rotary selector (for the auto) but overall, disappointedly underwhelmed with the interior. It's ok...just not my cup of tea. Love my 15 build R sport steering wheel....really didn't like it's replacement. Seemed a step back in design to me...reminded me if my dads 2011 XF! Seemed way to much gloss black touch screen stuff (dust andfingerprintt magnet) liked the less expensive led display (with the half dials for speed and revs) Still feel that jlr are missing a trick. I couldn't justify parting with the considerable extra cost over a good low millage later build. Be interested in your thoughts
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Re: Face lift model

Post by Vespa » Sun May 19, 2019 10:57 am

I would like to have had it a bit more retro with the dials in the instrument panel. I like the new set up but would like to have seen electronic AMP meter, oil pressure guage and possibly a vacuum guage. All out of fashion now but very much old car Jaguar that may be nice in the new cars, I do like the new interior mirror but am quite happy with my auto dimming version. Sadly the one I drove only had basic seating and it was noticable compared to my multi function seats. One worry would be the lower front end over these speed humps that seem to be getting installed on all roads around my area.
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Re: Face lift model

Post by PhilB » Sun May 19, 2019 11:39 am

It's the latest roll out of the common JLR parts bin.
Good or bad depending on your view.
The duo screens are in the Velar, new Evoque and now the XE.
Having driven a new Evoque I have to say I didn't find any problems adapting and in some ways they can be easier.
What came as a surprise was the way the new gear lever felt very easy and intuitive to use.
After 4 years with the rotary, I still find myself sometimes looking down to check the gears when going into neutral etc.
I also like the manual facility on it in addition to the paddles.
The rear mirror is amazingly good and fair play to JLR talking the lead with it.
The XE has reasonably good rear vision but it's one of those things that once you have used it you will probably never turn it off.
Main thing is interior quality has apparently taken a step up which is a good thing.
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Re: Face lift model

Post by Bazzamf » Sun May 19, 2019 12:57 pm

Does the auto stop start work?
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Re: Face lift model

Post by Vespa » Sun May 19, 2019 12:59 pm

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Re: Face lift model

Post by Gojira » Sun May 19, 2019 5:48 pm

PhilB wrote:
Sun May 19, 2019 11:39 am
The rear mirror is amazingly good and fair play to JLR talking the lead with it.
The XE has reasonably good rear vision but it's one of those things that once you have used it you will probably never turn it off.
The "mirror" wouldn't work for me.... :oops:

A real mirror has the reflection as far behind the mirror as the image is in front, so it is in focus through the distance zone on my varifocals.

When the "mirror" works as a screen, the image is in focus where the mirror sits, so I'd have to look through the bottom of my glasses to see the image in focus through the closeup section,

Obviously designed and tested by young folks with perfect eyesight and no grasp of the laws of physics :lol:

It is a nice trick, but it doesn't work for anyone with antique eyesight :roll:

It wouldn't stop me buying a Jag with it installed, but there is no way I'd pay for it!
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Re: Face lift model

Post by HaloJones » Sun May 19, 2019 6:55 pm

Gojira wrote:
Sun May 19, 2019 5:48 pm
The "mirror" wouldn't work for me.... :oops:

A real mirror has the reflection as far behind the mirror as the image is in front, so it is in focus through the distance zone on my varifocals.

When the "mirror" works as a screen, the image is in focus where the mirror sits, so I'd have to look through the bottom of my glasses to see the image in focus through the closeup section,

Obviously designed and tested by young folks with perfect eyesight and no grasp of the laws of physics :lol:

It is a nice trick, but it doesn't work for anyone with antique eyesight :roll:

It wouldn't stop me buying a Jag with it installed, but there is no way I'd pay for it!
Interesting point, I hadn't considered that.
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Re: Face lift model

Post by BruceTheQuail » Sun May 19, 2019 11:08 pm

The rotary dial worked fine in the first XF and the XK (which had it post 2009) but it was quite a but bigger than it is in the new XF, XE etc. Turning it was easy, with prominent "notches".

I never had to look down in my XFs or XKR but I found the smaller one in the newer jags fussier to use and easier to put in the wrong gear.

The stick from the f type takes some getting used to. You push a button for park and tipping it forward puts it into reverse. I put mine into reverse a number of times by mistake before I got used to it.
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Re: Face lift model

Post by PhilB » Mon May 20, 2019 6:41 am

Gojira wrote:
Sun May 19, 2019 5:48 pm
It is a nice trick, but it doesn't work for anyone with antique eyesight :roll:
It wouldn't stop me buying a Jag with it installed, but there is no way I'd pay for it!
The good news is that you can switch it back to a normal mirror by using the tab on the bottom of the mirror.
Just like the "old" manual dipping mirror tab.
I'm 60 and luckily have perfect distance vision but need to use glasses for reading and I didn't have an issue with it in camera mode.
:D
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Re: Face lift model

Post by Gojira » Mon May 20, 2019 6:54 am

PhilB wrote:
Mon May 20, 2019 6:41 am
Gojira wrote:
Sun May 19, 2019 5:48 pm
It is a nice trick, but it doesn't work for anyone with antique eyesight :roll:
It wouldn't stop me buying a Jag with it installed, but there is no way I'd pay for it!
The good news is that you can switch it back to a normal mirror by using the tab on the bottom of the mirror.
Just like the "old" manual dipping mirror tab.
I'm 60 and luckily have perfect distance vision but need to use glasses for reading and I didn't have an issue with it in camera mode.
:D
Lucky sod re the eyesight :lol:

I know about the switch, thats why I'd be happy to buy one with it fitted, but I wouldn't spec one from choice...

I don't think I'd better try and buy a fresh XE yet, though - I have -almost- finished running in the current one! :mrgreen:
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