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BevC
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Changes to MOT

Post by BevC » Mon Apr 16, 2018 7:30 am

My car will reach the age for an MOT test this year and I was surprised to see the changes coming in on 20 May. One of the big ones is if the car goes in and fails you can no longer drive it away - it has to be remedied first. I’m not convinced they’ve thought this one through. If you have something fail and the parts aren’t in stock or you have to wait for the car to be booked in, you are now vehicle-less. There are also changes when it comes to diesels, in particular if the DPF has been removed or the car smokes. Categories are also now changing.

This appears to have been very poorly publicised - I heard about it by chance. May be worth a look if you are facing this any time soon.


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Re: Changes to MOT

Post by PhilXE2018 » Mon Apr 16, 2018 8:50 am

I was always under the impression that if the car still has a MOT it can be driven away and have the repairs done where you like. IF there car does not have a valid MOT then it can only be driven to a pre-booked MOT or for repair.

Governments website supports this at the moment.

https://www.gov.uk/getting-an-mot/after-the-test


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Re: Changes to MOT

Post by PhilB » Mon Apr 16, 2018 8:56 am

Bit more on the new test here:
http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/car-news/1 ... iesel-cars

It looks like if it's failed under the "Dangerous" criteria it can't be driven away.
More here:
https://www.sytner.co.uk/news/new-mot-rules/

It seems to be to comply with an EU directive.
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Re: Changes to MOT

Post by Domfow » Mon Apr 16, 2018 2:58 pm

This is going to clog up main dealerships and specialist centres that offer the MOT facility. As Phil has stated a 'Dangerous' defect fail is immediately deemed un-roadworthy and cannot leave the garage until repaired. Now given the implication of a 'Dangerous' fail it could involve suspension and steering etc, that the dealer may not hold the necessary parts and then we fall into Bev's scenario, customer no car and dealer's compound full of cars awaiting parts for fixing and retesting. You can imagine how busy dealer service centres are going to be in March and September, not only PDI (pre delivery inspection) on new reg vehicles. but cluttered with MOT failures. Note currently a main dealer may do the MOT and the vehicle fails and people take their car down the road to the Jag Specialist to get it fixed at half the labour rate, now the car cannot be moved as the old MOT won't cover it anymore even if the old MOT date has not yet expired.
Thinking of setting up a recovery service to remove MOT Dangerous failures from Halfords and KwikFit centres to the nearest dealer or specialist and make sure the recovery vehicle has seats for a taxi service for the customer to take them home :idea:
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Re: Changes to MOT

Post by PhilB » Mon Apr 16, 2018 3:08 pm

I'm in!!!
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Plus you wonder if things could be termed "dangerous" (The leaking steering box example) when in reality they could be lesser issues.
Nice little earner for the MOT garage to do the repairs.
Oh, I'm being cynical again........... ;)
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Re: Changes to MOT

Post by BevC » Mon Apr 16, 2018 5:04 pm

A survey has been done today that found 2/3 of drivers are completely unaware or baffled by this new system. The only way round it I can see is for MOT stations to offer a “pre MOT” by not putting it through the system so you have the opportunity to get anything listed as dangerous rectified before putting it through the real thing. There are also new things covered such as reversing lights and daylight running lights on vehicles of a certain age. The new diesel emissions test will also include anything that smokes being instantly failed. There are also certain fluid leakages that will be deemed a failure on environmental grounds. Do you get the feeling they’re trying to get anything over 3 years old, particularly diesels, off the road?


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Re: Changes to MOT

Post by Indianajons » Mon Apr 16, 2018 5:30 pm

How will they determine the difference between ‘smoke’ and ‘vapour’ I wonder? All diesels (even brand new Euro 6 ones) emit a white vapour under certain conditions.
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Re: Changes to MOT

Post by Repairman » Mon Apr 16, 2018 6:08 pm

I have said the exact same thing Indiana, also note that this only applies to those vehicles with DPF filter, I am presuming this will have no affect on the vans that I have to follow with all windows shut because of the amount of smoke pouring out of the back, because they don't have DPF filters, and this will not apply to, very poorly thought out if you ask me.
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Re: Changes to MOT

Post by Vespa » Mon Apr 16, 2018 6:26 pm

Fancy this coming up! I took my car in for MOT this morning and it passed. The list of things tested and times was very intricate. Brakes were set through several digital checks and emissions all passed as 0.0 with a -0.1 on one item. Some fails were up to 1.5. Mine never recorded any only 0.0. So it was a pass +++. Gone are back street yobbos who fail to get work. :D
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Re: Changes to MOT

Post by 147daytona » Mon Apr 16, 2018 8:39 pm

What are you meant to do if you take your car to an MOT Test Centre that only does the test and doesn't carry out any repairs?
Another stupid half baked idea to hit the motorist in his pocket and nothing to do with vehicle safety.
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