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Re: Air Con Servicing

Post by Mikeyjd » Thu Aug 15, 2019 11:17 am

Vespa wrote:
Thu Aug 15, 2019 11:10 am
It's all to do with faulty foreign condensers that mysteriously attract stones at over 1000 miles an hour to piece them.
My 1 year old approved car had faulty air conditioning as soon as I was driving away from the dealer. Didn't get cold. Went back the next day and they diagnosed a faulty seal or something. Been OK since, but I'm waiting...........
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Re: Air Con Servicing

Post by Vespa » Thu Aug 15, 2019 11:25 am

I suppose that can happen in assembly.
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Re: Air Con Servicing

Post by BOBCDP » Fri Aug 16, 2019 10:10 am

Mikeyjd wrote:
Thu Aug 15, 2019 11:17 am
Vespa wrote:
Thu Aug 15, 2019 11:10 am
It's all to do with faulty foreign condensers that mysteriously attract stones at over 1000 miles an hour to piece them.
My 1 year old approved car had faulty air conditioning as soon as I was driving away from the dealer. Didn't get cold. Went back the next day and they diagnosed a faulty seal or something. Been OK since, but I'm waiting...........
That is exactly the same story as mine, 1 year old approved complete with 165 point check. Funnily enough air con not on the list. Because I bought it in Swindon and live near Cardiff, mine went to the local Stratstone when I managed to get it booked in 2 weeks later. They couldnt find any leaks and just regassed it. Back again at 2 years old, same story. Back again at 3 years just before the warranty ended and they finally agreed to change the condenser. Now at 4 years old and I'm pleased to say it's fine.
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Re: Air Con Servicing

Post by Mike Rometer » Fri Aug 16, 2019 11:18 am

BOBCDP wrote:
Fri Aug 16, 2019 10:10 am
Mikeyjd wrote:
Thu Aug 15, 2019 11:17 am
Vespa wrote:
Thu Aug 15, 2019 11:10 am
It's all to do with faulty foreign condensers that mysteriously attract stones at over 1000 miles an hour to piece them.
My 1 year old approved car had faulty air conditioning as soon as I was driving away from the dealer. Didn't get cold. Went back the next day and they diagnosed a faulty seal or something. Been OK since, but I'm waiting...........
That is exactly the same story as mine, 1 year old approved complete with 165 point check. Funnily enough air con not on the list. Because I bought it in Swindon and live near Cardiff, mine went to the local Stratstone when I managed to get it booked in 2 weeks later. They couldnt find any leaks and just regassed it. Back again at 2 years old, same story. Back again at 3 years just before the warranty ended and they finally agreed to change the condenser. Now at 4 years old and I'm pleased to say it's fine.
I suspect, not actually the condenser, more the connections to it.
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Re: Air Con Servicing

Post by Vespa » Fri Aug 16, 2019 11:27 am

Not the mysterious holes that seem to have been caused by stones so frequently reported
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Re: Air Con Servicing

Post by BOBCDP » Fri Aug 16, 2019 11:50 am

Mike Rometer wrote:
Fri Aug 16, 2019 11:18 am
BOBCDP wrote:
Fri Aug 16, 2019 10:10 am
Mikeyjd wrote:
Thu Aug 15, 2019 11:17 am


My 1 year old approved car had faulty air conditioning as soon as I was driving away from the dealer. Didn't get cold. Went back the next day and they diagnosed a faulty seal or something. Been OK since, but I'm waiting...........
That is exactly the same story as mine, 1 year old approved complete with 165 point check. Funnily enough air con not on the list. Because I bought it in Swindon and live near Cardiff, mine went to the local Stratstone when I managed to get it booked in 2 weeks later. They couldnt find any leaks and just regassed it. Back again at 2 years old, same story. Back again at 3 years just before the warranty ended and they finally agreed to change the condenser. Now at 4 years old and I'm pleased to say it's fine.
I suspect, not actually the condenser, more the connections to it.
Could well be. There certainly didn't seem to be any condenser damage on mine. Some condersers on early cars were allegedly holed but as this fault seems to have been prolific on early cars, perhaps there were a batch of faulty seals or maybe the connections just needed a tad more tightening during assembly. We shall never know.
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Re: Air Con Servicing

Post by PhilB » Fri Aug 16, 2019 12:43 pm

I think the issues with earlier XE's and more recent stories about what appeared to be required servicing have caused a lot of scepticism with regards to the air con systems.
The flurry of faults amongst earlier cars seem to have dried up but a lot of us still remember the attempted "con" of saying it was stone damage to the condenser to try and charge owners when in fact the condensers were faulty.
Of course when challenged to see the actual damage the "stone damage" suddenly got forgotten about and they were changed under warranty.
Then the more recent £100 charge for an air-con "service" that was tried on by a dealer on a first service that was apparently needed to keep the warranty ???
Total nonsense of course and intervention by CRC on here got the owner his money back.
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Re: Air Con Servicing

Post by Vespa » Fri Aug 16, 2019 1:08 pm

Hence the term "Air con" :lol:
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Re: Air Con Servicing

Post by Domfow » Mon Oct 21, 2019 6:28 pm

PhilB wrote:
Mon Aug 12, 2019 12:17 pm
Domfow wrote:
Mon Aug 12, 2019 11:57 am
No 64,000 miles in 3.5 years and mine needs a regas, spoke to my local Jaguar specialist at the cars service and high miler XE's are already needing regas, usage over age, I run my aircon all year. I have also been quoted £70 for the new gas, as only one garage in the area can provide the new gas service outside of the franchise dealer.
Manual says nothing about excessive loss due to usage.
Straightforward 3% per year.
Presumably they tested your system to see how much gas was left?
Well I had mine regassed with the new Gas for £90. It had all the tests carried out for pressure etc and passed. The car is now blowing ultra cold air when I need it. It took 30 minutes to refill, therefore using the aircon constantly and I'm on the road early mornings so the aircon is working with the screen to clear along with heated screen, the gas can empty in 3.5 years, I had 2 X types prior to this and neither emptied as quick. I wonder if it's the latest gas, that is used more than the old gas in the new aircon systems?
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Re: Air Con Servicing

Post by BRC » Mon Oct 21, 2019 6:42 pm

Perhaps worth re-posting this link: [url]http://sibotservices.co.uk/latest-gasses-now-at-sibot-r-1234yf-hfo-1234yf/[/url]

Curious that Sibot is a one man band but he seems geared up where so many other "majors" are not.

I suspect Jaguar have through their dealers been less than fair to owners of early cars and dare I say it perhaps knowingly made customers pay for inherent faults that should have been covered by their 3 year warranty. Far be it for me to cast aspersions but makes you wonder........
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