Tax disc. Possibly a comeback!

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Tax disc. Possibly a comeback!

Post by Vespa » Wed Dec 04, 2019 2:17 pm

Since the abolishiment of the round tax disc, instead of saving money, DVLA / HMRC are out of pocket by £millions as drivers take the chance on getting caught or forget to renew. Another great idea. :lol:
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Re: Tax disc. Possibly a comeback!

Post by Prestige » Wed Dec 04, 2019 2:41 pm

Went to a tax planning seminar a couple of months ago......the "tax specialist" said that the reason HMRC/DVLA etc are constantly seeking to milk us even more follows the decision to end the road tax disc and the direct paying of savings interest at source.
So many are just not paying road tax and them persecuting savers to pay interest to HMRC above the £1k allowance often costs more than is brought in.
Another example of stupid decisions.....no doubt "lessons to be learned but no one to blame".

My mate has his 1953 Citroen ( Maigret car) back in the UK from its normal continental home for repair......a renowned SE England specialist is cheaper. On the screen......3 discs......one tax,one insurance,one MOT type. Obvious and clear but of course the opposite of what we get here !
And they wonder why avoidance/evasion is rife.


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Re: Tax disc. Possibly a comeback!

Post by Vespa » Wed Dec 04, 2019 2:44 pm

Agreed. Show it has all the required paperwork on the screen. I pay mine as most do, so it's time everyone shows that they pay their fair share too.
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Post by MalcolmT » Wed Dec 04, 2019 4:53 pm

Agreed.
I keep the rules, and wouldn't worry about displaying that fact.
Means parking wardens etc. can check instantly that the car's legal even while parked.
I'm even a boring old fart that keeps (roughly) to speed limits.
It's not worth breaking them.
Exceed the limit by a bit - you get done.
Exceed the limit enough to make a difference, and they throw the book at you.
Oh for the old days when they had to follow you.
In those days, if you didn't notice the car following you, you DESERVED to get done.


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Re: Tax disc. Possibly a comeback!

Post by Gojira » Wed Dec 04, 2019 6:06 pm

Tax and MOT discs would be a good idea, but insurance would be more complicated, as it is the driver who is insured, in the UK at least, rather than the car.

And I suspect that most of us are happy with that, because our age and driving record is taken into account. :D

If cars were insured instead, I'd bet an evenings beer money that the only people who'd benefit would be the insurance companies! :evil:
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Re: Tax disc. Possibly a comeback!

Post by MalcolmT » Thu Dec 05, 2019 11:16 am

Agree about insurance.
Other countries seem to manage it?
At least it would prove that SOMEBODY's insured to drive the car.
My certificate lists the people allowed to drive.
Should be possible to put that on a display able disc.
Although I'm not sure I'd want my name displayed on the car.


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Post by Mike Rometer » Thu Dec 05, 2019 11:37 am

MalcolmT wrote:
Thu Dec 05, 2019 11:16 am
Agree about insurance.
Other countries seem to manage it?
At least it would prove that SOMEBODY's insured to drive the car.
My certificate lists the people allowed to drive.
Should be possible to put that on a display able disc.
Although I'm not sure I'd want my name displayed on the car.
It'd be another reason for some tow-rag to try and rip the car off. "It's insured, so no one loses"! :o :o You'd also be amazed just how many falsified Tax Discs were doing the rounds. The advantage being if you're in a bump then you can see things are right.
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Post by PhilB » Thu Dec 05, 2019 11:57 am

If the police check on an index plate, the systems will show the details of keeper etc, if it is taxed and if any insurance is held for the vehicle.
It also pings up on ANPR cameras if the vehicle has no tax or is not insured.
Obviously if it's not shown as being insured then the driver would have to prove they are driving it under the cover of their own policy.
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Re: Tax disc. Possibly a comeback!

Post by Vespa » Thu Dec 05, 2019 12:05 pm

One fault with insurance I found on an auto renew was that it was a weekend and for the Sunday my car did not show as insured as the insurer didn't add it to the database until the Moday even though they had the money in full a week before.
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Re: Tax disc. Possibly a comeback!

Post by MalcolmT » Thu Dec 05, 2019 12:33 pm

Yes. I know what you mean about a delay.
Years back, I was stopped in a security check by what we disparaging called"Dad's Army" - the UDR.
Standard practice was to make polite conversation with the driver while the guys in the Land Rover checked the details.
I was driving a car I'd just bought -and WAS taxed,insured etc. but obviously the details hadn't been updated onto the database.
It was ages before I volunteered the info and paperwork (which I had with me) to put them out of their confusion.


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