[Guest]

I go through the email notification in order and the Turbo issue I thought about in the post about warranties before I saw this. Basically a short engine has been fitted and the main cause of engine failure has been transferred to this new short engine. A short engine is mainly just the block and head and sometimes just the block. That of course includes all the innards but not turbos etc bolted on.

 

[Jay]

I had a Ford mundano diesel with apparently similar symptoms - oil leaking from turbo into EGR valve. When I took the EGR off it was blocked solid with a nasty mixture of soot and oil.
That required a new turbo, after much haggling with the extended warranty people.

 

[Madatter]

My was just short off two years old coming up to its first service when it went in for its engine mounts, jaguar phoned me and said I needed some oil in it, £50 please, I said " don't bother its having a service in a couple of month"
While waiting for its return I started to worry about it so I bought 5lt of oil for £30 while it was on offer. When I got it home I checked the oil, I had to put less than a half a cup full in it, when I had it serviced they put 6.5 litres in it from 2 5lt bottles, I now have 8.5lt sat in the shed ready for emergencies.

 

[Cornish]

Well today I got a phone call from dealers saying my Dpf and Egr cooler is blocked and need replacing! £2077 please Mr Evans.

 

[chrisjp]

They're not bad cars, just misunderstood! If it's any consolation my RX-8 doesn't use as much as my old V6 Omega used to :lol:

Oh, it had its good points - great to drive but overall it was ridiculously rusty (scrapped at <10 years old for serious corrosion), not that fantastically well put together and horrific for fuel!

I'm actually still running as a second car a Vauxhall Cavalier V6 - with the same engine as in the Omega V6 but mounted transversely. It unusually has a 4 speed auto transmission - complete with 'sport' mode which holds onto higher revs before changing up. It's done around 110,000 miles and still does not burn any oil between changes - which I still do old-school style every 3,000 miles. Fuel consumption is not great - around 30 mpg, but the car is pretty much as fast and smooth mechanically to drive as my XE, and the 6 cylinder engine sounds better to my ears than the 4 cylinder XE. Suspension is a bit crude however and the steering, though power assisted, is heavy.

 

[BRC]

Well today I got a phone call from dealers saying my Dpf and Egr cooler is blocked and need replacing! £2077 please Mr Evans.

That's appalling and at best it sounds as if these items should have been changed when the new engine was placed. Also would make me seriously concerned that if the dpf is blocked then why have you not had any such warnings.
Personally it sounds to me as if they are treating the symptons and not the cause. What could further be waiting around the corner, another big bill for a new turbo?
At worst this sounds like potential remedial solutions based on changing components till the root cause is eventually found. Doesn't sound like your dealer is applying much in the way of science so surely another opinion should be sought before going any further.

 

[Pete McK]

I'm actually still running as a second car a Vauxhall Cavalier V6 - with the same engine as in the Omega V6 but mounted transversely. It unusually has a 4 speed auto transmission - complete with 'sport' mode which holds onto higher revs before changing up. It's done around 110,000 miles and still does not burn any oil between changes - which I still do old-school style every 3,000 miles. Fuel consumption is not great - around 30 mpg, but the car is pretty much as fast and smooth mechanically to drive as my XE, and the 6 cylinder engine sounds better to my ears than the 4 cylinder XE. Suspension is a bit crude however and the steering, though power assisted, is heavy.

I had a Cavalier 2.0 GLi for several years and thought it was great overall, to be honest. Most 2.0 & V6 of that age won't be as good on fuel either. Suffered a little with torque steer, but as you say the suspension was in need of an update!

 

[Cornish]

Well today I got a phone call from dealers saying my Dpf and Egr cooler is blocked and need replacing! £2077 please Mr Evans.

That's appalling and at best it sounds as if these items should have been changed when the new engine was placed. Also would make me seriously concerned that if the dpf is blocked then why have you not had any such warnings.
Personally it sounds to me as if they are treating the symptons and not the cause. What could further be waiting around the corner, another big bill for a new turbo?
At worst this sounds like potential remedial solutions based on changing components till the root cause is eventually found. Doesn't sound like your dealer is applying much in the way of science so surely another opinion should be sought before going any further.

Exactly what I thought. I went straight through the manual to see what tells me, if anything, that the dpf is blocked. Again I had no red warnings, no text or message on screen, which I have seen in a work van. No loss of performance or increase in fuel consumption etc. Just that same orange transmission looking symbol that I have always got. I also reason it can't be seen, by the dealers/Jaguar at least, as bad of an issue as I had a choice of leaving it for a further 4 weeks in order to be able to have a courtesy car if needed. I said no, I want it looked at sharpish and got it booked in the following week. It's almost proven aswel that they are only interested in changing the minimum of parts and not actually sorting it as the 3 month old egr cooler is blocked again! I've never had so many problems with any vehicle.

To keep on topic, my wonderful Xe, in all repaired forms, has gone through over 9ltrs of oil in 15 months. Not including whatever was lost from when I bought it, as it had an oil leak......which was picked up when I booked it in for faulty aircon....but after they told me the front brakes were on the way out. All this on my 160 odd....? point checked, test driven by Jaguar technicians, like new, Jaguar Xe.
I wouldn't make it as a salesman :lol:

 

[Guest]

The DPF on the XE is positioned in such a place that blockage is very unlikely. I think the dealer has no idea of how the car works or the tech doing it last worked as a supermarket trolley collecter.

 

[Indianajons]

The DPF on the XE is positioned in such a place that blockage is very unlikely. I think the dealer has no idea of how the car works or the tech doing it last worked as a supermarket trolley collecter.

Why not take it to an independent specialist and pay for a comprehensive inspection and report (you can claim the cost back if you have to end up taking them to court)

 

[PhilB]

The amber warning light on the dash should have logged a fault code.
Just needs someone to connect up to the car and see what the fault is.
A blocked DPF should be throwing the red lights and has been said the XE doesn't suffer from this issue.

 

[Cornish]

Sounds like dealer's trying to fleece me then. If indeed there should be a red warning light along with an actual blocked DPF, I definitely haven't had that.