:| This may sound like a brush-off answer, but it's not. My presumption is that it's due to you still being in the break-in period (and I'm only assuming this is a new-from-factory car you have).

Mine was a 2017 tier-3 model (one level down from your tier, I think).

It used to leap forward all the time as if it were in Dynamic Mode instead of Normal Mode.
:shock: When I left it idling for a minute while I walked to open the garage, I'd hear it THRUM-ing, THRUM-ing, THRUMMING, like an breathless angry chained-up dragon or something, both tailpipes were leaving small puddles of water on the driveway, and I could FEEL the same rough thrumming in the whole car when I sat back in it. I became afraid to idle the car for any period of time at all.

But after 4 months (about 4000 miles), the car smooths out. It practically becomes TOO silent and obedient.
The Normal Mode behaves like a "Normal" mode now… ( :lol: though now I kind of miss the untamed aggressiveness the car had when it was still breaking-in).
The vibration and the tailpipe water when idling in my driveway has completely gone (though it will still SOUND like a revving tractor if I idle for many minutes).
I think many sporadic owners have reported a wide variety of harmless-but-queer quirks about the engine during the break-in---Jaguar (not the dealership, but JAGUAR customer assistance) seems to consider it the experience of your parts "mating together".

:| That break-in idling vibration made me nervous---thinking maybe the petrol station I'd chosen was giving me dirty fuel… or something is mis-tuned with the cylinders… or something's clogged and spitting out water through the exhaust.
Though I probably don't have to worry anymore, as a habit, I still avoid idling around in my driveway or parking lots for more than a minute. I'd hate to be wrong about the break-in period, and have that behavior return.

 

Lester, he has a diesel and I'm pretty sure you have a petrol plus the things you are describing with yours are perfectly normal.
Cold air in the exhaust on start up causes condensation which can leave puddles and cause steam especially in cold weather which might explain why you saw it 4 months ago (cold weather) and why you don't see it now (warmer weather).

Can any of the diesel members assist with this one?
I seem to remember some campaign about the camshaft sensor needing fettling but Frank's seems to be quite a recent car?

 

I spoke to my dealer yesterday as the HO27 Camshaft sensor was checked at the last service, on cold the car clatters like a 90's Cavalier and like others I believe it's the splash guards underneath that vibrate like a wobble board. Sending vibrations from the engine down below the floor pan because the guards are not tied down at the back. I asked if there was any official cure and the answer was 'NO'

phoboff's video is exactly the problem

 

I have it going back to the dealer again and he wants to keep it for a few days so he can duplicate the problem if possible.
If they cant get it fixed, then a new engine?
The car is only 7 weeks old. Not what i expected from a very expensive car!!

 

I doubt it will need a new engine.
There was another issue that some had regarding the engine mounts.
I seem to remember that they are "smart" and there is a vacuum pipe that powers them.
I'm pretty sure some had this pipe come off causing the excessive vibration at times.
Might be worth getting them to check that out too.

 

With engineering if you make something more complicated then you're going to have more problems. I wonder how necessary these strange mounts really are?

 

vibration on idling is a justifiable excuse for foot to the floorboards driving :lol:

 

I somehow missed this one and had the same vibration when cold back in the winter where the car felt as if it was wobbling when still. I took it to the dealer who found nothing. Since then, rightly or wrongly, I have been using Millers Eco Max. Now the vibration has gone. Maybe it is the weather that is warmer that has cured it or maybe the upping of the cetane value with the Millers. I cannot actually say which. So why not try one of the premium diesel brands such as Shell V Power. I used that in my petrol Rover V6 and it most definitely made that run better. You could try a one shot of Millers Ecomax just to see if that helps. I know many on here would poo poo additives but I actually think that Ecomax does make a difference. i have used it in the VW I had from new and just recently (Feb) in this car.

 

When you say vibration, is it quite a slow bumpy vibration/judder (like someone is shaking your car or bouncing in the back seat)?

Mine (180 diesel) does a vibration/shake when I'm stopped and have my foot lightly on the brake - my dealer said this happens in the auto as it's something to do with the gearbox/torque converter, when you're hard on the brake it switches to a kind of "neutral" mode, then when you release the brake it applies the engine power to the gearbox again and the position I was holding the brake was on the switchover point so it kept switching between power/no power to the gearbox, resulting in a vibration/judder.

Don't know how much truth there is in that or if it was a brush-off, but applying more pressure to the brake does stop the issue in my case.

 

Interesting as since my stop/start started working again I have the footbrake on under the heavy boot so that could be very valid as the vibration stopped. I put it down to the Millers but would accept that was coincidental.

 

Mines got 9k miles on it now - so effectively run in.
I used to get this vibration while running in but only get it occasionally now.
I tend to have the box in neutral, hand brake on and foot brake off - so physically out of gear.
I'll see when it happens again and note conditions.

I've pretty much ignored it as its infrequent.

 

Another thing I noticed yesterday when it happened again, was the rev counter was sitting at around 500-600 rpm.
Is such low revs normal when idling?

 

Mine does this sometimes and I'm thinking its when re-gen hasn't completed but its still running.... Could be very wrong but my last car (an Insignia) did the same only when you revved it it would fill the road with white smoke proving the re-gen theory...

So maybe re-gen is my answer....

 

Mine does this sometimes and I'm thinking its when re-gen hasn't completed but its still running.... Could be very wrong but my last car (an Insignia) did the same only when you revved it it would fill the road with white smoke proving the re-gen theory...

So maybe re-gen is my answer....

You have just brought back a memory of my VW as that went lumpy running on a regeneration cycle and this was mentioned by the dealer at the time as being normal.

 

You guys bought a diesel :lol: :lol:

Barrie

 

The 3.0 V6 diesel that I had in my XF was a wonderful engine. Every review I read kept going on about how good the engine was. The torque throughout the rev range with the twin rurbos was just wonderful. It would go from 0 to 60mph in 5.9 seconds which is great for a heavy limo like the XF. I would have liked one in my XE but my driving needs have changed, but I still miss it.

 

Please has anyone had this vibration car has been back to H A Fox Chester multiple times and they deny its happening. I am not sure what recourse I have now as I have been trying to get this on and off since I purchased this car in May and it was last in the to H A Fox with this on Friday.

You can hear the vibration in my house its that loud dash cam does not do it justice. you can hear it at the following times

10 Seconds
11 Seconds
27 seconds
32 seconds
34 seconds
42 seconds
47 seconds
52 seconds

 

Hi couldn't determine sound from video
Mine had a loud ticking sounds that at times sounded like a sewing machine, this was fixed by replacing an earth strap with a redesigned one, as noisy from fuel pump was being transmitted through body. There is a topix item for it

 

Hi couldn't determine sound from video
Mine had a loud ticking sounds that at times sounded like a sewing machine, this was fixed by replacing an earth strap with a redesigned one, as noisy from fuel pump was being transmitted through body. There is a topix item for it

Its not a ticking sound its a sort of shuddering sound like the exhaust is hitting something I will put the other videos on you tube I have

 

Topix SSM72758 references
Issue: Excessive vibration of vehicle and exhaust system when stationary at idle
Cause: Engine mount not switching into idle condition references faulty hoses to engine mounts

 

Topix SSM72758 references
Issue: Excessive vibration of vehicle and exhaust system when stationary at idle
Cause: Engine mount not switching into idle condition references faulty hoses to engine mounts

Thanks I have had a look but cant find the topix ? as that sounds spot on

 

here you go

 

Babysquip, I can't believe your dealer can't agree it's happening - it nearly shook my teeth out listening to it!!! Some dealerships just plain let the whole brand down I think.

It does sound like an engine mount or other significant structure issue. Bring repairmans doc to them and tell them to try it. Otherwise if you get nowhere I think even sending your video to Jaguar CRC by email would be a start.

That noise would drive me bonkers too I must say.

Fingers crossed it's a quick fix.

 

I too had this issue, and my dealer knew what it was before I had even finished describing the symptoms. It's most likely related to the switchable engine mounts, which change their characteristics when idling, so that engine vibrations are not transferred to the chassis.

Those mounts are driven by the engine's vacuum system, to which they are connected through some hoses. When those become leaky (some animals like to chew on them), the engine mounts cannot adjust properly. As a consequence, excessive exhaust vibrations occur sometimes, which we can hear in the video. I also noticed a general increase of idle vibrations when sitting in the car.

Your dealer should probably check the vacuum hoses first, and then anything else related to engine mounts/vacuum system.

 

For the sake of a day off work, get in touch with Rybrook Jaguar Warrington and speak to Tony on service reception. Explain to him what is happening and the reference to the engine mounts and see if they can sort it for you. I am sure that they will with a loan car part of the job. All my jobs have been done 100%